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Old 12-24-2011, 11:52 PM
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Is this thing on?

Anyways, some general updates, and yes, i know i'm slacking on pictures. 4th quarter sucks in my industry.


Steering rack and column is out of the car.

Another layer of paint on the front half is done, looks good.

Wheelwells were all wirebrushed then undercoated.

Rear hubs and modified 3rd gen ZX2 escort trailing arms arrived yesterday, i need to run the arms to the powdercoater so everything matches, then i can start assembling the suspension, wooo!!!!

Picked up a few other things.....

1) CZT 70mm throttle body
2) Gutted and ported "straight neck" intake manifold
3) Outlaw Thermospacers
4) Interprep valve springs


Realized yesterday that i didn't pull the MX3 fusebox and harness off. Oops. So i need to find one of those.

Spent a lot of time talking to my buddy here who knows these motors.... Megasquirt is going to happen shortly after the car runs on stock electronics. He says there's HUGE gains to be made, especially with the parts i have for this motor. He's talking ~240whp n/a on stock bottom end. That would be glorious.


There's another reason Megasquirt is going to be necessary. <evil grin>



Did somebody say "ITBs?"
Yes. I believe they did.








Peep the Kinsler pimpsauce within!



If you've heard of or just plain HEARD "The KLiata," you've heard these very same throttle bodies in action. I don't even care if they give power (and they will... LOADS of it), they sound incredible.


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Old 12-24-2011, 11:53 PM
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Daaaaaammmmmnnnnnn

Yeeeeeeeeeuhhhhh SON!

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Super jelly. When I get mine all done I may get a hold of you for some info on megasquirt because mine may get a Turbo

I'm not a megasquirt guru, but i'll help where i can. My buddy that will be helping me if i got Megasquirt has TONS of experience with MS on the KLs, though, and i'm sure he'd be willing to give you a hand.

Plus.... aren't you in St. Louis? There's quite a few people out there with built/MS'd Probes. You're looking for a dude named John Kessler.

I haven't decided if i'm using Megasquirt or Haltech yet.
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12/23/11

Megasquirt it is!

After further research on this particular setup, the Gixxer TPS is mounted on the other side of the assembly farthest from the Kinsler arms, which means there's a perpetual delay. As soon as the TPS sees what's going on, the throttles have already blipped a bit. Not good.

On the positive side, the setup is pretty modular and it shouldn't be hard to move the TPS to a more suitable location.

On the REALLY positive side, the setup has some pretty beefy vacuum runners, which makes tuning via MAP fairly easy. (in theory, that is.)

What i think i'll do is move the TPS, then tune using both.

The newer variants of megasquirt have the ability to tune in "ITB Mode" (blended mode on the older boards) where it switches between Alpha-N and MAP depending on RPM range and throttle position. This eliminates driveability issues where in certain rev ranges using just one or the other.

Example: MAP-based only tuning: In the upper rev range, a MAP change as little as 2% could cause a fuel requirement change of 10% or more. (Possibly even more considering the nature of my engine) Bad for race conditions with fast load changes staying in the upper half.

Alpha-N tuning: Has the same problems but in the lower rpm range, horrible for cruising.


Blended/ITB mode:










Yep. Shit is gonna get nerdy in here over the next couple months.
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Old 12-24-2011, 11:56 PM
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Trailing arms and new hubs have arrived.

Who's up for a suspension discussion?

I guess i didn't understand exactly what was going to be done to these things. See the pictures below.

The end that goes on the hub assembly retains stock bushings. Can anyone think of a reason for this?

Would there be any detrimental effect to making that end into a solid mount?




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Just got an email from King6Fab (same guy that did my manual timing belt tensioner), seems the prototype MX3 side mounts are done.


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Some more things.

Mounts arrived:



Baffled catch can, not sure if i'm going to use this one or not...




And here's some ITB porn with a sad mixed in for good measure.

Start with the sad:












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well crap. this makes my bet look safer.

Approximately 11 weeks until local season starts.....
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:12 PM
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well crap. this makes my bet look safer.

Approximately 11 weeks until local season starts.....
In the grand scheme of things... this doesn't slow me down much if at all. I can fix this on the kitchen table on a weeknight. It'll be done before the car sits on wheels/tires again.

Car will be running stock manifold first anyways. Well... "stock" manifold.

I'm wanting to do some testing with the ITBs before i commit 100% to running them on the car going forward.
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Whatever you do, just fucking do it. And soon

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ob, if you haven't had your parts powder coated go buy a powder gun from harbour freight and a few heat lamps. jamie and I did this with a few things. turned out pretty nice.
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ProKote has been powdercoating my shizz.
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:09 AM
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Anybody want to give me a hand on Sunday?

Need to remove the rest of the A/C from under the dash, get a steering column back in it, and start installing the suspension arms and such.

The Haltech dealer/tuner is coming up to look at the car on the 3rd and put together a list of things we'll need to get it fired, mainly on the ignition front. Would like to have the car a roller by then so i can take stock of everything in its parking space in the garage.
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Since its actually on a sunday(not sat), I can lend a hand.




Shall I bring the special a/c removal tool that was last used on the bimmer?



And by that, an innanimate carbon rod with a bolt sticking through it......
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You can bring that if you want. I'm trying to stay away from demolition, though.... i gotta keep the interior as per the rules.
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Bump for updates.

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Oh yeah, i'm done with it. Just not in the way you're insinuating.
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he has given up. he was scared of le FIT.
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