civic cx hatch build thread

**eurobeaner** · #**221** 09-21-2011, 11:52 AM

Lol

**b17what** · #**222** 09-21-2011, 11:57 AM

of all people to be haten...why pat? why? lol

wago will get a z6 engine, cable dx trans, and stay that way for awhie. As I said before. It won't get messed with for awhile and thats only if I decide to do it. Either way it will move better then the auto teg...

**eurobeaner** · #**223** 09-21-2011, 12:10 PM

You are hard headed. The concept is decent, execution will fail. Cheap/quick/reliable won't work. Been there, done that, learned. But maybe you have the money do do it numerous times. What I DO know, is when you get older.... Easy and RIGHT and RELIABLE the first time will be what you do.

**b17what** · #**224** 09-21-2011, 12:17 PM

i know the choose two from the three idea. Cheap, fast, reliable. It will be cheap and reliable. Car will not be fast. It'll have a 14b on no more then 10psi. With rods, pistons.... I do not see how this will be unreliable.

**ChrisCrane** · #**225** 09-21-2011, 01:25 PM

You really think a stock sleeve d is stronger then a stock sleeve b? Lmao. You do realize the Eco boost is more then just a turbo on a small displacement motor right??? If your really going for mpg and reliability I can't understand a turbo z6 of a na b. If you really wanted mpg a high compression destroked d16 turbo with a hf trans would be ideal for mpg

**b17what** · #**226** 09-21-2011, 01:44 PM

Show me where a turbo stock sleeved b is more reliable then a turbo stock sleeved d? A stock d has smaller bore and thicker sleeves. It's not as square as a b, but it will handle more. Many peple running 20+psi on bigger turbo's with nothing more then a $500 vitara set up and a good tune. A rods and pistons b is good for what 400 before there are issues?

**BEEF SUPREME** · #**227** 09-21-2011, 03:39 PM

For the MAYBE 200whp you're talking about here... why are we even talking about sleeve strength?

Stop messing around with garbage motors, dammit. Get a real DD.

Grab a 92-93 Celica ST or something and just drive it. Mid high 30s mpg, stock, enough power to not be run over, stock. Handle well, stock. Ridiculously reliable, stock. Decent ones found for under $2000, check.

I mean, do as i say, not as i do, but all this sounds like a lot of work for a DD.

Want something quicker that day? Take the DSM to work/school for a day or two. If it breaks, hey look, you've got a backup!

Really, by the time you're done, you may as well have just bought my MX6. 5:1 odds it'll last longer and be more reliable. God knows the motor is stronger than what you're talking about.

**b17what** · #**228** 09-21-2011, 04:29 PM

someone brought up reliability. with rods and pistons sleeves are the weekest link. but as you said ill still be under 200 so I don't get it either....

**b17what** · #**229** 09-21-2011, 04:33 PM

and I only have 1500 to get another daily unless I can sell the teg first. if I can sell the teg before hand I can have about 5k to throw around... but that wont happen.

**BEEF SUPREME** · #**230** 09-21-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by b17what

and I only have 1500 to get another daily unless I can sell the teg first. if I can sell the teg before hand I can have about 5k to throw around... but that wont happen.

Sell the teg, bring me $3k, give me a week to find another clean 92-93 Celica.

**b17what** · #**231** 09-21-2011, 05:18 PM

nope...lol

**eurobeaner** · #**232** 09-21-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by b17what

Show me where a turbo stock sleeved b is more reliable then a turbo stock sleeved d?

the part you are missing is YOU DONT HAVE TO TURBO THE B YOU TARD. stock will always be more reliable than a 100k mile engine that a dude throws a turbo onto....

**BEEF SUPREME** · #**233** 09-21-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobeaner

the part you are missing is YOU DONT HAVE TO TURBO THE B YOU TARD. stock will always be more reliable than a 100k mile engine that a dude throws a turbo onto....

**b17what** · #**234** 09-21-2011, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurobeaner

the part you are missing is YOU DONT HAVE TO TURBO THE B YOU TARD. stock will always be more reliable than a 100k mile engine that a dude throws a turbo onto....

I DON'T WANT A NA B YOU TARD......lol

**b17what** · #**235** 09-21-2011, 07:19 PM

motor will be rebuilt with eagle rods and vitaras IF I ever go turbo with it....

**eurobeaner** · #**236** 09-21-2011, 07:32 PM

oh now its IF.

you must have never felt a NA b20 or b20vtec thats actually running properly then.

**ChrisCrane** · #**237** 09-21-2011, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b17what

Show me where a turbo stock sleeved b is more reliable then a turbo stock sleeved d? A stock d has smaller bore and thicker sleeves. It's not as square as a b, but it will handle more. Many peple running 20+psi on bigger turbo's with nothing more then a $500 vitara set up and a good tune. A rods and pistons b is good for what 400 before there are issues?

i see more 400hp+ stock sleeve b series then i do d series, just sayin.... just cause johnny on the interwebs claims he is running 20+psi on a 500 dollar turbo doesn't mean johnnys ride will be dependable, follow me??

you said 200hp which quite honestly with the right combination of OEM parts can be done on a b series without breaking a sweat or down every week.... by adding a turbo to any car think of all the things that potentially break (turbo,wastegate,bov,oil lines etc etc)... i myself would rather spend a couple grand up front and not have to worry about it every time you go somewhere, i mean for fucks sake i thought thats what you bought a dsm for

**b17what** · #**238** 09-22-2011, 12:02 AM

I just have a thing for d's. don't know why.

pat re read the thread. been saying if the whole time... I have been in two different b20's making about 200hp. one had a 4k dollar ls head that came from 4piston with crower 404's and a b20vtec. I know how they feel. but if im going to buy a different car it defeats the whole idea of what I want. I could just 5sp swap and lsv the teg... but I don't want to... want the wagon with a d. if I could ever find an hx trans I would go for that. I can get the car running with a z6 for under 1500. whole idea is a cheap good mpg beater. BUT at one point I would like to turbo it.

my vitara set io in my old coupe was never down for issues related to the engine or turbo set up. I ran 15+psi on a massive holset for 2 years and I beat the living shit out of it. here is the kicker, it was on a fmu set up the whole time. the down fall to that set up was stock mounts. You guys are telling me about how I never did this or what ever. Have either if you owned a turbo d? Or are you both going of what "johny" on the internet said?

**ChrisCrane** · #**239** 09-22-2011, 10:52 AM

I'm smart enough to never own a turbo d

but I have worked on plenty as I have sold parts to people switching from them. At the end of the day it's your car and your gonna do what u wanna do. You know if you need help I'm just a few miles away

**BEEF SUPREME** · #**240** 09-22-2011, 10:55 AM

You want a reliable cheap 200whp? I have a BP dropout sitting here... 200whp isn't even stressing one of these motors.

DO IT

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